koi mujhay bata sakta hai k islam mein female k parda kitni had tak hai?
matlab ka kis trah k veil ya nakab islam mein hai???????? :?:

mein ne bohat si books parhi but i m confused.....

kia matlab kis tarah ka veil ???? explain ker thora

matlab ye k koi kehta hai k sir se paon tak larki ko khud ko chupa rakhna chahiye or koi kehta hai moun k ilawa baki chezain cover rakhni chahiye.
jab k female jab haj or umray pe jati hain or wahan hoti hain tab un k face tu nazer a rahay hotay hain so i m confused kis trah ka parda islam mein hai............. :?: :?:

yar jahan tak maine suna hai wo ye hai k aap poora cover kero khud ko....r jo aapka duppatta hai wo is tarah lo k aap k saray baal cover ho jaein aur bus mun nazar aaye...


coz main ek waaqia suna tha , ab mujhe theek say yaad nae k ek dafa Subah nae ho rahi thi...lyk ujala nae ho raha tha...tu log Hazrat Muhammad ( Salay Laa ho Alai Hee Waa Aa ley Hee Wa Sal-lum) k pass aaye aur bataya unhay..........tu Aap Hazrat Muhammad ( Salay Laa ho Alai Hee Waa Aa ley Hee Wa Sal-lum) nay farmaya kisi ek shaks ko k jao ja ker dekho k Hazrat Fatima ( Razzi Tala Anho ) ka koi baal tu nazar nae aa raha...

tu wo shaks gaya r waqae unkay sir ka ek baal nazar aa raha tha....tu unho nay nay jaisay hee baal theek kiye tu foran ujala ho gaya......


so is se i guess k aapko pooray baal n poori body cover kerni chahiye face ko chor k ... ....baqi confirm ker k bata dun ga

Yeah Ya Rite Sh3rry ... Ny Wayz Nice Topic Hafsay

Guyz u know k Mustafa kamal ne Caliphate ko khatam kar k republic govt: banayi thi.
us ne dekha k ghareeb aurtain to buhat sakhat parda krti hin jb k Ameer aurtain pardey k naam se bhi waqif nahi, to us ne Parde ka Order khtam kar diya.

Buhat se logoun ne is cheez ko Appriciate bhi kiya, buhat se logoun ne Dislike kiya.
ok,
sab se pehle to humein PARDEY ka matlab samajhna chaiye.
k parda kya hai???

Afsous ki baat yeh hai k hum QURAAN ko nahi dekhte k QURAAN kya keh raha hai bal k
jhooti/Sachi kahaniyoun pe Yakeen kar letey hain.
Jaise ooper sherry Saheb ne aik bilkul jhoota waqia likha hai,

ALLah k bandey, zara apne MIND ko thoda sa use to karo,

ye kaise ho sakta hai aik bibi ka baal nazar aane per ujaala na hua,

or kisi aadmi ne us paak bibi k paak baal ko Chua or usse theek kar diya,

zara socho k aisa kaise ho sakta?????????

nahi, bcoz baal nazar aana koi gunaah nahi hai,

magar ghair mard ka choona, ye baat ghalat hai,

umeed hai sherry tum samajh gaye hogey.

to ab sawal ki taraf aate hain.

dekho, quraan ye kehta hai k, O Women, jab tum ghar se bahir niklo to Dheela libaas pehno, jis se tumhari body k Up n Downs nazar na aayein, or Apna lehja sakhat kar lo,(matlab kisi se narmi se baat na karo) kyun is tara sunnay wale k dil Jazbaat Paida honge, jo Maashrey mein burai ka Sabab banein ge......

ye hai Quraan ki Sachai, jise Islam k starting days mein molvi, or jhoote peeroun faqiroun
ne chuppa diya tha, sirf apna Buisness chamkaane k liye,
in logoun ne sahi ghalat baatein islaam ki taraf mansoob kar din.

jaise k parde ko bilawaja buhat sakhat kar diya,
nikaah k liye ladki ka razamand hona zaroori nahi, aisi baatoun ko islaam mein phela diya,
4 shaadiyaan karne k liye pehli biwi se ijazat lena zaroori nahi, yeh sab islam k starting days mein hua hai,

magar Ab ALLAH ka shukar hai k hamari aankhein khul gayi hain.
Parda aik achi cheez hai, magar islam ne aurat ko bhi jeene ki poori azadi di hai,
bas yeh soch k parda kiya karein k yeh aap k apne liye hai, kisi k majboor karne per mat karein. islaam ne har aik jeene ka haq diya hua hai....

ALLAH hum sab per apna karam kare.

sherry ne jo waqia sunaya hai woh bilkul sach hai bcz ye mein ne khud islamic book mein parha hai.

or jahan tak baat hai zulfi je aap ne jo kaha woh mujhay samjh nahi aiya kahin aap parday ka matlab bata rahay hain or kahin aap islamic lehaz se parday ka bata rahay hain or kahin keh rahay hain k islam mein parda hai par koi zabrdasti nahi......
aap ki baat kuch samjh nahi aie..................???????

@all:- yahn pe islamic lehaz se baat ho gi is liye meri sab se request hai kisi or ko ghalat kehnay se pahlay ye poch lein k us ne kahan parha ya ye baat or knowledge usay kaisay hai...........
kyun k lazmi nahi har baat har insaan ko pata ho..........
is trah hamari knowldge mein or izafa ho ga.......

waisay bhi hamary hazoor pak ka farman hai

"insaan maa ki goud se qabar tak ilm hasil karta hai"

isi liye kisi ko totly ghalat kehna ghalat hai.................
kyun k is dunaya mein koi bhi perfact nahi hai..............

Aap ki baat sahi hai k koi bhi perfect nahi hota,
mgar jahan tak Islam ki baat hai to us pe compromise nahi...

jo sach hai wo Quraan mein hai.....

yeh baat aap ko bhi maanni hogi k other islamic books ne hi firqa parasti ko janam diya hai.
sab se pehle Quraan hai, Quraan ka muqabala kisi or book se mat karein,
zaroori nahi k kisi book mein kuch hai to wo sachi bhi hai,
humein sirf Quraan ko sacha maanna hai...bas,

aap khud socho k aisa kaise ho sakta hai jo ooper waqiye mein bataya gaya,
maine is ka anwser apne uncle se mashwara kr k yahan likh tha.

aap khud socho na!........

islam mein parda hai magar zabardasti nahi hai, main is baat per qaim hoon or INSHALLAH hamesha qaim rahoon ga........

Sherry wrote:

tu wo shaks gaya r waqae unkay sir ka ek baal nazar aa raha tha....tu unho nay nay jaisay hee baal theek kiye tu foran ujala ho gaya......

' tu unho nay ' say matlab bibi tha mera na k wo shaks...come on yar...itni common sense tu use kero tum log...hud hai...

zulfi_rocks wrote:

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ye kaise ho sakta hai aik bibi ka baal nazar aane per ujaala na hua,

or kisi aadmi ne us paak bibi k paak baal ko Chua or usse theek kar diya,

i neva wrote k kisi nay un k baal ko chua...meri baat ka matlab ye tha k Hazrat Muhammad ( Salay laa ho alay hee waa aa ley hi wa sal lum ) nay jis shaks ko bhaija tu ye keh ker bhaija k jao dekh k aao kahin bibi k baal khulay tu nae...r wo shaks b bht respected personalities main aata hai per mujhe naam yaad nae...tu wo shakhs nay ja k dekha tha tu bibi ka aik baal nazar aa ra tha...jo us shaks k kehne per unho nay theek say chupa lia tha...

ye waaqiay ka theme tha...maine oper likha tha k mujhe word to word theek say yaad nae....but theme ye tha...n i neva wrote k kisi nay un k baal ko cho k theek kiya hai..come on dude..ghaur say parh

zulfi_rocks wrote:

jab tum ghar se bahir niklo to Dheela libaas pehno, jis se tumhari body k Up n Downs nazar na aayein

abey maine b tu yehi likha hai k body cover kero...tu b film hai...

zulfi_rocks wrote:

islam mein parda hai magar zabardasti nahi hai

dude Islam main waisay hee zabardasti nae hai...r na hee history main Islam zabardasti k sath phaila hai qomo main.... ...jisko Islam k rules apna nay thay un logo nay Islam kabool kiya r us k rules k sath chalay na k un rules ko zabardasti ka naam de ker...

itz jus lyk maine ye forum banaya hai r is maine rules set kiye hain...agar koi in rules ko follow ker sakta hai tu forum join keray werna main kia zabardasti kisi ko khainch k laa sakta hun k tu forum b join ker r rules b follow ker.......no neva...agar aisa kero ga tu wo banda dil say mera forum join nae karay ga...r naa he rules follow karay ga...

isi tarah Islam k b rules hain...koi unhay follow ker sakta hai tu Islam qabool karay...nae ker sakta tu koi zabardasti nae...u r free to live as Kaafir......but hum bacho ki gud luck ye hai k hamare baap dada nay Islam qabool kiya hua tha...is liye hum paida hee muslim huay...n i guess hum sab naam k hee muslim hain....hum log real sense main Islam k rules follow nae kerte n m really sharminda on ma self fo this...baqi kisi ka pata nae...

r parda kerna is i guess laazmi...coz parda kia hai...wohi dheeley kapray pehna baqaul zulfi k...so on the other side u r sayin k parda kerna zabardasti b nae hai islam main...which meanz k dheeley kapray na pehne larkian...tightz pehn k niklein roadz pay....yehi matlab hua zulfi bhai ? ...coz tum khud keh ray ho k parda hai magar zabardasti nae...n baqaul tere k parda is lyk dheela libaas pehna r sumthin...tu mere bhai teri baat parh agar sach hai tu it meanz k agar koi larki chahy tu parda ker sakti hai werna shez allowed to wear tightz n skirts......hai na ? ...coz zabardasti nae hai naaaaa....n is tarah tujhe nae lagta k teri baat parh k koi b bachi parda nae karay gi k g islam main tu zabardasti hai hee nae...r bey sharmi ka element kuch ziada ho jaye ga i guess maashre main... ....r fir maashrti buraye b kharri ho gi...her koi logo ki maa behan ko gundi nazar say dekhey ga...lawl....

so main is baat pay qaim hun k parda hai....r sabse bari baat Hamare Nabi ( salay laa ho alay hee waa aa ley he wa sal lum ) k daur ki musalmaan aurtein parda kerti theen....so i guess aaj ki larki ko un bibio ko dekh ker hee un ka answer mil jata hai k parda wajib tha werna wo b na kertin...simple

I highly Agree wd Sherry!!!...

sherry is 101% right

mere knowledge k mutabiq aap k sar k baal nazar nai aanay chahiye.
pori body ko cover kerna chahiye sar se paon tak.

hath b sirf kalie tak nazar aanay chahiye.
haan face uncover rehnay diya ja sakta hay, is ki permission hay. but neck nazar nai aani chahiye.

ager aap pora face cover kerna chahti hain tu koi harj nai. balkay behter hay


i am confirm about it.
if you get confusion then i can refer you to some books by religious scholars.

The Islamic Concept of Veil



Two verses of the Holy Quran succinctly and candidly deal with the basic concept of veil in Islam. First; in Sura An-Nur (The light) the Quran says: “And tell the believing women to lower their gazes and be modest, and to display of their adornments only that which is apparent, and to draw their veils over their bosoms.”(24:31)



In this verse it is clearly mentioned that sex parts must not be exposed and must be covered. “Adornment which is apparent” alludes to the common body parts between male and female sexes. The face, hands and feet are common parts and are exposed without any indecency or immodesty. Second; The other verse of the Holy Quran is in Sura Al-Ahzab (The confederates). The Quran says: “O; Prophet! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go outside). That will be better, that so they may be recognized and not molested”. (33:59). The ancient Arab history reveals the fact that the immodest and immoral ladies used to expose their bodies and walk in market without veil. They were purchasable commodities. They did not wear hijab or scarf. They were improperly dressed. The corrupt people could easily decipher and unravel about their character or profession. They were prostitutes. Hence the Quran announced that pious ladies must be properly and modestly dressed so that when they go out of their houses people should recognize them as domestic chaste, pure and pious ladies and they should not be teased or chased. From these two above-mentioned Quranic verses it is clear that God ordains to cover the bodies and strictly rejects and condemns nudity and obscenity.



Now the question arises as to what is the concept of veil in Islam. Different jurists and interpreters have differently interpreted the above-mentioned Quranic verses about veil. Here I would like to cite from two illustrious contemporary scholars. Maulana Moududi of Pakistan in his Urdu book entitled “Pardah” (The veil) considers the covering of face obligatory for a Muslim woman. On the other hand Ustad Murtaza Motaheri Shaheed of Iran in his Persian book entitled “Hijab” (The veil) does not consider the covering of face obligatory. But both scholars of eminence believe that a Muslim lady must wear “scarf” and cover her head for identity and sobriety. They also in detail discuss that covering of sexual parts was obligatory in ancient Greek and Roman culture and was religiously obligatory in the society of the Jews and the Christians as well. They have given examples that only immodest and indecent ladies used to expose their bodies. To date the ladies who expose their bodies in the name of modernity and progressive civilization represent the ladies of ancient times who were considered the ladies of market having no value and culture. The history is repeating itself. In the name of freedom we are exploiting and insulting the women folk. The woman has been turned into a purchasable commodity. It is happy omen that the Muslim society believes in the covering of the womenfolk but it is divided in its concept and practice as mentioned earlier. The Muslim world is divided in to three groups. First; those who claim to be modern wear European dress. They do not care about the Quranic injunctions. They pay lip service to Islam. We can find some Muslim ladies wearing skirts or mini skirts in some Muslim countries like Turkey, Lebanon, Egypt and the Middle East. Second; there is an extreme known as retrogressive ladies. These ladies cover their bodies from top to toe. It is known as ‘Burqa’. It is a kind of veil with eyeholes to it, covering the whole body from head to foot. You cannot see the face, hands or feet of the women. It is rampant in Saudi Arabia and in some other states. Third; we find some moderates who do not believe in extremism and give the moderate interpretation of religion. These ladies neither wear western dress nor Saudi dress. They cover their bodies but do not cover the face, hands and feet. Some of them wear scarf and some do not. They do not make “scarf” an issue. They are more concerned about sex parts and the matter of their covering. Majority of them believe that scarf is the part of Islamic dress while some others do not consider scarf the part of Islamic dress, as there are no clear Quranic injunctions about headscarf in the Quran. But the Muslim history testifies this fact that wives of the holy Prophet (P.B.U.H) used to cover the head with a sheet or scarf. Hence such ladies consider scarf an Islamic obligation. Such ladies are mostly found in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Malaysia and Indonesia. During the performance of pilgrimage the Muslim ladies cover the head with a scarf but do not cover the face, hands and feet. It seems the pilgrimage gives women respect, place, position and status on the bases of knowledge, character, dignity and modesty. Islam does not make womenfolk as sex commodities or play things in the hands of commercialism. The female body is used for selling everything from cosmetics to clothing. The woman has been made a marketable commodity in the name of so called freedom. We must resist. We must give natural honor to women through Islamic teachings.



In the end it is necessary to mention that the prohibition of scarf in schools or offices by the French government is discriminatory. It is against human rights. The French officials say that hijab is a religious symbol and must be prohibited. But the crux of the matter is that if some ladies are free to wear miniskirts or reveal their bodies how the other ladies can be asked not to cover their bodies. If the Jews can wear the Star of David or Yamaka (A skull cap worn by the Jews) and the Christians can wear the cross, then why only the Muslim women are asked not to wear scarf. It is a discriminatory law and exhibits prejudice against Muslims. Let us respect the religious symbols and right of all believers and be tolerant to maintain a culture respecting Inter Faith dialogue and religious co-existence.